The Creeds
page showed the extra hurdle of deeply ingrained
anti-Catholic prejudice our wonderful Catholic apologists
have to overcome. Hopefully it and Best of the Best
showed the blatant propaganda tactics used to proselytize
Catholics. Now, it's time to move on to something more
positive: showing our Common Ground.Many Protestants
think that the Catholic Faith is a gross and unique
aberration from "true" Christianity. They see
belief in the "Real Presence" in the Eucharist,
Baptismal regeneration, infant Baptism, the Sacramental
system, Church Hierarchy (Bishops, etc), the honor of
Mary as the Mother of God (the Theotokos) and other
doctrines as peculiarly Catholic "heresies".
But such is not the case! Many groups share some, and
even nearly all, of the Catholic Faith! In fact:
The Catholic Faith is
the overwhelming majority position in all of Christendom!
The purpose of this page is two-fold:
1. Apologetics
First and foremost as an apologetics tool. A good
apologetics tactic should be to "corroborate"
the Catholic Faith with the views of other Christian
groups whenever possible. Whenever someone asking about
or questioning Catholic doctrine confronts a Catholic,
the Catholic can point out that "such-and-such"
group shares the same or similar belief. This should be
especially useful in defending against those aggressive
proselytizing groups who may appear at the doorstep, most
of whom clearly will fall outside of the majority view in
Christendom on various important issues. My purpose is
not to "convert" Protestants to the Catholic
Faith. I don't have the talent for that. I will leave
conversion up to God and the real Catholic apologists.
Rather, my purpose...and hope...is that I might help
strengthen fellow Catholics from proselytizing groups. Inoculating the faithful
from the wolves and sects, so to speak.
2. Christian Unity
A secondary goal is to see where we, Catholics and
Protestants, stand with regard to ecumenism. Is it a real
possibility? As a loyal and faithful Catholic, I cannot
tolerate any ecumenism that would "re-build"
the Church. The Holy Catholic Church already is The
Church. Nevertheless, it might be interesting to see
where we stand...at least with respect to those groups
closest to us
[It is
more efficient to right-click and open the following
links in a new window]
Sources
Some of my
sources
Catholic
Numerous and wonderful Catholic sites exist which explain
the Catholic Faith. Some are listed at my Apologetics Sites page. I suggest
generally using the following sources for the Catholic
position:
[Catholic
Apologetics on the Internet] The first Catholic site
I discovered on the web and the one I usually turn to
first. Simple and easy layout. Contains info on
apologetics & various non-Catholic groups..
Eastern Orthodox
[Orthodox Church in America
(OCA)] [Greek Orthodox
Church in America (GOCA)]
Anglican ~
Episcopal [39
Articles of Religion] [Book
of Common Prayer - Nice layout! Also contains the 39
Articles] [Church
of England] [Episcopal
Church, USA] [Catechism
of the Episcopal Church] [Anglican Catholic
Church]
Lutheran [Project
Wittenberg] [Augsburg
Confession (1530)] [Lutheran
Church - Missouri Synod (LCMS)]
[Evangelical Lutheran
Church in America (ELCA)]
Presbyterian
[Presbyterian Church in
America (PCA)] [Westminster
Confession of Faith (1646) - PCA version]
[Presbyterian
"Creeds & Confessions"]
Reformed [Reformed Church in America
(RCA)] [Belgic
Confession of Faith (1561)]
Baptist [The Baptist Faith &
Message - from the Southern
Baptist Convention]
Methodist [United Methodist Church-
UMC] [By
Water & the Spirit] - A United Methodist
Understanding of Baptism
General
Sources
Orthodoxinfo
General articles about Orthodoxy
Creeds of
Christendom by Rev. Michael H. Anderson, MDiv.
Anglicans
Online This page has links to various other
"Anglican-Catholic" groups
The
(Almost) Total Catholic Home Page by Jon Zuck. Lists
"Apostolic Churches". Don't miss it!
The Trinity
This category will include most of Christendom. I
don't foresee listing each and every Christian group.
Indeed, many of the proselytizers who show up on Catholic
doorsteps will be Trinitarians. This category is mainly
to strengthen Catholics from assault by Jehova Witnesses.
If the Catholic Church went off track here so did
virtually all of Christendom. "Not bloody
likely...." Here is a good place to recall Christ's
words regarding His Church: "...and the gates of
hell shall not prevail against it." Matt 16:18
The Jehova Witnesses apparently DO believe that the gates
of hell prevailed against the Church...and consequently
effectively say Christ was a liar! (They also effectively
deny that Christ is the head of the Church, but that's
another story better suited to an article I intend to
write...someday.) Frankly, I don't see how any Catholic
can succumb to Jehova Witness proselytizing efforts.
Believes in Holy Trinity
Eastern Orthodox See Holy
Trinity (OCA)
Anglican 39
Articles of Religion, see Art. I
Lutheran Augsburg
Confession
Presbyterian Westminster Confession of
Faith, Chap.
II
Reformed By virtue of the "Ecumenical
Creeds" below. Also, Belgic
Confession, Art. 10 & 11
Baptist See God
at the Baptist
Faith & Message of the Southern Baptist
Convention (Thanks to Lucy for
donating this site.)
Methodist See A
Triune God
Even the Seventh-Day Adventists! Seventh-Day
Adventist World Church Official Website, click on
Trinity. See this Catholic article on SDA
Beliefs which confirms that the SDA's believe in
the Holy Trinity. (Interesting in that Satan would
let "anti-Christ" and his "Whore
Church" teach the truth about God. Why they
focus on Sunday Worship?)
Accepts "Ecumenical
Creeds" (Apostles
Creed, Nicene Creed, Athanasian Creed)
Eastern Orthodox See Nicene
Creed (OCA)
Anglican 39
Articles of Religion, see Art. VIII
Lutheran From ELCA,
see No. 4. Also, see Creeds-ELCA
Presbyterian See Presbyterian
"Creeds & Confessions"
Reformed See "Beliefs"
page
Methodist See Wesleyan
Essentials of Christian Faith
Tradition
The truth of Sacred Tradition is evident in that even
after the Schism of 1054 AD the Orthodox Church
"corroborates" nearly all of the
Catholic Faith! Even down to transubstantiation (without
using the term) and the Mass as a Sacrifice. For those
who believe that some "Pope" during the Middle
Ages (or the IV Lateran Council, 1215 AD) invented
Catholic doctrine regarding the Mass/Eucharist, how do
you explain the Orthodox view? Compare the uniformity of
Sacred Tradition with the 20,000 (+) chaotic and
conflicting Protestant churches, denominations, sects and
cults holding to "Sola Scriptura." Nobody in
the early Church believed in sola scriptura (scripture
alone). See this link on Apostolic
Tradition at Beggar King.
Accepts Sacred Tradition
Eastern Orthodox See Tradition
(OCA). See GOCA link The
Dogmatic Tradition of the Orthodox Church. Also,
see GOCA link The
Orthodox Faith for a good overview of
Orthodoxy...this link alone confirms most of the
material on this page
Sacramental System
Confers Grace Believes
sacraments are not merely symbolic. God, in some manner,
works in the sacraments as a means of grace.
Eastern Orthodox See OCA links Sacraments
and The
Sacraments. See GOCA
link, click on "The Sacramental Life of the
Church."
Anglican 39
Articles of Religion - see Art. XXV. Also,
Catechism of the Episcopal Church The
Sacraments.
Lutheran See LCMS link,
scroll down to No. 5
Presbyterian See Westminster
Confession of Faith, No. XXVII - "Of The
Sacraments"
Reformed See The
Sacraments. Also, Belgic
Confession, No. 33 - "The Sacraments"
Methodist See Sacraments.
Also, The
Means by Which God's Grace Comes to Us. Also, Introduction
- Speaks of recovering sacramental roots.
Seven Sacraments
Baptism, Confirmation, Holy Eucharist, Penance,
Ordination, Matrimony & Last Rites
Eastern Orthodox See OCA
link, click on "The Sacraments". See GOCA
link, click on "The Sacraments."
Some Anglican See Anglican
Catholic Church statement of belief, for example.
Has 2 full Sacraments and
5 "Sacramental Rites"
Anglican See Catechism of the Episcopal Church
scroll down to Other Sacramental Rites. [Note: This is the catechism
of the Episcopal
Church, which is the American branch of the Anglican
Communion.]
Has at least 2 Sacraments
(Baptism & Eucharist)
Lutheran See LCMS link,
scroll down to No. 5
Presbyterian See Westminster
Confession of Faith, No. XXVII - "Of The
Sacraments"
Reformed See The
Sacraments. Also, Belgic
Confession, No. 33 - "The Sacraments"
Methodist See Sacraments
Baptism
The Catholic view wasn't just made up by some
"Pope" in the Middle Ages in order to
"deceive the people". The Church is only
passing on what it received down through the ages back to
the Apostles and the very lips of Christ Himself. Even
the most ardent anti-Catholic should cut the Church some
slack on this one. See this article The
Bible & Infant Baptism by Matt1618.
Accepts Baptismal
Regeneration This Presbyterian
link, although trashing baptismal regeneration,
nevertheless confirms the belief is held by: Roman
Catholics, Greek Orthodox, Lutherans & the Church of
Christ
Eastern Orthodox See sacraments,
click on "Baptism" (OCA)
Anglican 39
Articles of Religion - see Art. XXVII
Lutheran Augsburg
Confession. Also, see links from LCMS: Baptismal
Regeneration & Benefits
Methodist See Baptism
& the Life of Faith. Also, see article RCC
& UMC Share Belief in Baptism, Confirmation
Accepts Infant Baptism
Eastern Orthodox See sacraments,
click on "Baptism" (OCA). Also, see GOCA,
click on Infant Baptism...Great article on Baptism...don't
miss it!
Anglican 39
Articles of Religion - see Art. XXVII
Lutheran Augsburg
Confession. Also, see links from LCMS: Infant
Baptism and Benefits
Presbyterian Westminster Confession of
Faith, Chap.
XXVIII, no. 4
Reformed Sacraments
and Belgic
Confession, Art. 34
Methodist See Baptism
as God's Gift to Person's of Any Age. Good
section on Infant Baptism!
Church of the Nazarene See XII.
Baptism
Immersion Not Required
Eastern Orthodox I'm unclear on this one.
Anglican Book
of Common Prayer, click on No. 18 - Baptism of
Infants or No. 20 - Baptism of Persons of "Riper
Years"
Lutheran See LCMS link
(Contrasting with Southern Baptist Convention view
which requires immersion) WELS
link (see no. 7)
Presbyterian Westminster Confession of
Faith, Chap.
XXXIII, no. 3
Reformed Sacraments
Methodist See Baptism
by Water & the Holy Spirit.
Church of the Nazarene See XII.
Baptism
Eucharist
A typical fundamentalist tactic is to call our
Catholic view of the Eucharist "cannibalism"
because of our belief in the Real Presence. But they
practice "symbolic cannibalism"...is that any
better? The Church did not invent this act of
"cannibalism" - Christ did! "This is my
body...this is my blood". Matt 26:26-28; Mark
14:22-24; Luke 22:19-20. It's no coincidence that the
only time any disciples left Christ over a teaching (I
call them the first Protestants) was during His
"cannibalistic" Bread of Life Discourse in John
6:25-71. Christ didn't call them back to clear up any
mistake or misunderstanding and explain he was only
speaking "symbolically". He let them go. Don't
you be one of them! If anyone has a problem with
"cannibalism", tell them to take it up with
God! for instituting this "cannibalistic"
ritual.
Believes in "Real
Presence" Christ is really and bodily
present, although may quarrel over the mechanics
Eastern Orthodox Its "Real"! See Holy
Eucharist from Orthodox Church in America.
Anglican This is most difficult, as
Anglican/Episcopal belief sometimes seems vague &
conflicting. See 39
Articles of Religion - see Articles XXVIII &
XXIX. See Anglican
Catholic Church ["We
believe in the holy sacrifice of the Mass and that
the body and blood of Christ is truly
and really present in the Holy
Eucharist."] See Corpus
Christi - the Blessed Sacrament, Anglican
Catholic Church [believes in "the real,
and objective presence of our Lord
in the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper, the Eucharist,
and the sacrificial character
of that holy rite."] Compare with The
Anglicans: Who are they? What is their Faith?,
the Anglican Church in America [scroll down
to Holy Eucharist, believes "Jesus
is truly, spiritually present
under the outward forms of the consecrated Bread and
Wine, to infuse our lives with the spiritual strength
of His life."] See catechism of the Episcopal
Church, USA The
Holy Eucharist ["Q.
What is the inward and spiritual grace given in the
Eucharist? A. The inward and spiritual grace in the
Holy Communion is the Body and Blood
of Christ give to his people, and
received by faith."] But
compare The
Traditional Protestant Episcopal Church [ (c) Let us now go a step
further. There is no real bodily
presence of Christ in the sacrament of the Lord's
Supper, or in the consecrated
elements of bread and wine.]
Anglican/Episcopal view is all over the board.
Lutheran Augsburg
Confession. Also, see LCMS link Real
Presence
Believes in
"Spiritual Presence" Also
rejects mere "symbolic" view. Should be another
useful weight against "fundamentalists" &
various "Bible" Christians.
Presbyterian Westminster Confession of
Faith, Chap.
XXIX, see nos. 1, 5, 7 & 8. (I
thank those at the Free Church of Scotland
(Presbyterian) message board for confirming that
their Holy Communion is more than the
"symbolic" view.)
Reformed Belgic
Confession, Art. 35
Methodist See Communion.
Believes the Mass is a
Sacrifice
Eastern Orthodox See Holy
Eucharist from Orthodox Church in America.
Some Anglican See Anglican
Catholic Church statement of belief
Some Lutheran See Church
of Sweden. Liturgy & Worship. Scroll down to
Eucharist. Make sure you continue reading their
liturgy.
Liturgical Services
Many Churches have liturgical services; some have
online liturgies. I'll link to Catholic liturgies for a
comparison.
Catholic
Mass
for Dummies. The Catholic
Liturgical Library (make sure you continue on to Liturgy
of the Eucharist.)
Eastern Orthodox
See The
Priest's Service Book. Great link! (Donated
by Kolo) Divine
Liturgy of St. John Crysostomos (Listen to it at
the Greek
Orthodox Archdiocese)
Coptic
The Coptic
Liturgy of St. Basil.
Anglican
See Church of England links liturgy
& means.
Also, Book
of Common Prayer, click on No. 17 - "Holy
Communion". Also, see this Episcopalian
liturgy page (Rite 2 is very similar to our New
Mass. (Site donated by Andrew T.)
Lutheran
See LCMS article Theology
& Practice of the Lord's Supper. Also, see
this article Why
is the Lutheran Church a Liturgical Church? Calls
it the "Mass".
Reformed Church in
America (RCA) See their Orders of Worship
page and their various Orders of the Lord's
Day/Supper and the Sacrament of Baptism, etc.
Reformed Church in the
United States (RCUS) Directory
of Worship. (Adobe Acrobat Reader needed - get
it!)
Christian Reformed
Church of North America (CRCNA) Liturgical
Forms & Resources Index (has past &
present).
Lutheran,
Presbyterian, Reformed, United Church of Christ
The Chicago
Liturgy Template for the ELCA, PCUSA, RCA &
UCC. From the ELCA Plan of
worship for liturgy.
United Church of
Christ (UCC) See their Worship/Liturgy
page.
Lift Up Your
Hearts Courtesy
of the ELCA. See their Worship & Liturgy sites
link - many liturgy links from various Churches. (Is
that a Liturgical Dancer I keep hearing about but
thankfully have never seen?)
Reconciliation/Penance/Confession
Auricular Confession to
priest/pastor (Technically, confess to God
in presence of priest/pastor.)
Eastern Orthodox See sacraments,
click on "Penance" (OCA). GOCA
link, click on "Confession"
Anglican Book
of Common Prayer. This "proof link" is
hidden in the Ministry to the Sick - "Here shall the sick person
be moved to make a special confession of his sins, if
he feel his conscience troubled with any weighty
matter. After which confession, the Priest shall
absolve him (if he humbly and heartily desire it)
after this sort." (Thanks
to Andrew T. for donating this link) See this Episcopalian
link under An Exhortation - "And
if, in your preparation, you need help and counsel,
then go and open your grief to a discreet and
understanding priest, and confess your sins, that you
may receive the benefit of absolution, and spiritual
counsel and advice; to the removal of scruple and
doubt, the assurance of pardon, and the strengthening
of your faith." (Thanks
to Andrew T. for donating this site). See Confraternity
of Blessed Sacrament, encourages the one hour
Eucharistic Fast and use of the Sacrament of
Reconciliation. (Donated by Andrew T.)
See Episcopal Church catechism Other
Sacramental Rites, see "Reconciliation of
Penitent."
Lutheran Augsburg
Confession, Art. XI & Art.
XXV See LCMS links Confession
and Absolution
Hierarchy
Has Bishops
Eastern Orthodox See GOCA link The
Orthodox Faith. This is too obvious...see The Ecumenical
Patriarchate of Constantinople site
Anglican 39
Articles of Religion - see Art. XXXVI. Also,
Church of England (photo) links organization
& means.
Photo Link: Anglo-Catholic/Holy Catholic
Church (Anglican Rite) Bishop
Consecration.
Some Lutheran See Church
of Sweden
Believes in Apostolic
Succession
Eastern Orthodox See GOCA link The
Orthodox Faith
Anglican Book
of Common Prayer. Preface to Ordinations. Also,
take a look at the Ordination Rites. (Thanks
to Andrew T. for donating this link.)
Some Lutheran See Church
of Sweden, scroll down to Ordination
Hello! Just
discovered The
(Almost) Total Catholic Home Page. Lists the
"Apostolic Churches". Great list &
chart...don't miss it!
Mary
"The Word
became flesh" John 1:14
The
Third Ecumenical Council (Ephesus, 431 AD) condemned
the Nestorian heresy. Nestorianism erroneously taught
that Christ was two separate persons, human and divine,
and that Mary was only the mother of the human person of
Christ and not the divine person. This Council of the
Undivided Church upheld the orthodox belief that Christ
had two natures, human and divine, which existed
in only one person and that Mary gave birth to
this one person with two natures. In other words, both of
Christ's natures, human and divine, were inside
Mary's womb as one person. As the Orthodox link below
states:
"The Virgin Mary is 'Theotokos'
because she gave birth not to man but to God who became
man."
Hence, the council upheld the orthodox belief that
Mary was the "Theotokos": God-bearer or
Mother of God. Some classical Protestants may
initially resist calling Mary the Mother of God. However,
this is most likely a knee-jerk reaction based on their
anti-Catholicism. They will eventually realize that their
own traditions probably also hold to the Council of
Ephesus and the historic, orthodox teaching of the
Church. (Veneration of Mary, of course, is another
matter.)
"Fundamentalists" and "Bible"
Christians will most likely be another matter entirely.
These groups have virtually no respect whatsoever for
Church History, Ecumenical Councils or the views of
Christians who came before them. Their theological
outlook may be summarized as "Me & Jesus &
my Bible in the here & now". Their reaction to
Mary as the Mother of God most definitely will be based
on their anti-Catholicism. Many have apparently reverted
to the ancient Nestorian heresy and believe that Mary
only gave birth to the human part of Christ.
Consequently, these groups deny the full Incarnation and
therefore are not fully Christian. (Note: This does not
mean they cannot be saved.)
Mother of God (the
"Theotokos")
Eastern Orthodox See this Orthodox link on
the Third
Ecumenical Council (Council of Ephesus, 431 AD)
Anglican
Luther, Calvin & Most Reformers See
Guest Article "Mary
& Protestantism (The Reformers vs. the
Fundamentalists)" by John E.
Honors/Venerates/Prays to
See "Prayer
to Mary & the Saints" by Gary Hoge for
meaning of "pray to."
Eastern Orthodox See articles at About
the Theotokos (Blessed Ever-Virgin Mary). Also, Veneration
of the Virgin Mary and Prayers
to the Mother of God.
Anglican Society
of Mary. This Anglo-Catholic site not only honors
Mary, but also has the Rosary and calls her
"Mother of the Church!" (Thanks
to Andrew T. for donating this site!) Also, The
Sodality of the Most Holy Rosary.
Luther, Calvin & Virtually All Reformers (Except pray to) See
Guest Article "Mary
& Protestantism (The Reformers vs. the
Fundamentalists)" by John E.
Perpetual Virginity (No
Other Kids!)
Eastern Orthodox See articles regarding
ever-virgin at About
The Theotokos (Blessed Ever-Virgin Mary). Also, Why
is Mary Considered Ever-Virgin?
Luther & Most Reformers See Guest
Article "Mary
& Protestantism (The Reformers vs. the
Fundamentalists)" by John E. Also, see "Brothers
& Sisters" by Gary Hoge which includes
Martin Luther, John Calvin and Ulrich Zwingli.
Assumption (Taken Into
Heaven Body & Soul)
Eastern Orthodox Taken into Heaven body
& soul at her death (Dormition). See Orthodox
vs. Catholic, scroll down to No. 9, Mother of
God. [Note: Catholic theology is non-committal as to
whether Mary actually died before her Assumption...is
an open question. See this Catholic site re Mary,
click on What
About Mary's Death?]
Possibly Luther & Other Reformers See
Guest Article "Mary
& Protestantism (The Reformers vs. the
Fundamentalists)" by John E.
Miscellaneous
Veneration/Intercession of
Saints
Eastern Orthodox See GOCA link The
Saints of the Orthodox Church.
Has Prayers for the Dead
Eastern Orthodox
Anglican See Catechism of the Episcopal Church,
scroll down to The
Christian Hope.
Rejects Eternal Assurance
(Once Saved; Always Saved)
Eastern Orthodox
Anglican
Lutheran LCMS
link
Assemblies of God The
Security of the Believer
Church of the Nazarene See VII.
Free Agency
Accepts
Crucifixes/Statues/Icons, etc
Eastern Orthodox See Icons.
Also, GOCA
link, click on "Orthodox Art &
Architecture."
Lutheran LCMS link on Statues
& Crucifixes Also, see pic from St.
Augustine's House
Has Monks/Nuns
(Monasteries/Convents)
Eastern Orthodox See OCA
link, click on "Monasticism"
Anglican Thought only Catholics &
Orthodox had monks/nuns? Think again! See Directory
of Communities for listing of various Anglican
Religious Orders and their Home
Page. (Many thanks to Andrew T.
for donating this site!). Also, scroll way
down to Religious
Orders & Other Christian Communities. Photo
links: Anglican
Nuns and their USA
Episcopal Branch (check their homepages for
confirmation.)
Lutheran St.
Augustine's House
Has Daily Office/Prayers
(vespers, etc.)
Eastern Orthodox OCA
link, see "The Daily Cycle of Prayer"
Anglican See The Daily
Office. (Site donated by Andrew
T.)
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